WELCOME TO Entanglements. In this episode, hosts Brooke Borel and Anna Rothschild talk to Tom Zeller Jr., Undark’s editor-in-chief, about covering science under the Trump administration.
On most episodes of Entanglements, our hosts invite two experts with differing opinions to share their points of view, in an effort to find some common ground.
The point isn’t to both-sides an issue or to try to force agreement. Instead, they aim to explore the nuance and subtleties that are often overlooked in heated online forums or in debate-style media.
Over the course of its second season, the podcast has covered contentious topics ranging from gain-of-function research to geoengineering to searching for the cause of autism to the use of psychedelics in medicine.
“Don’t. Take. Tylenol!”
—President Trump during press conference announcing a “link between Autism to Tylenol” without evidence.
All of these topics are politically charged, but they have become even more so in the current political climate.
Read the full transcript of the podcast, lightly edited for clarity. Stay tuned for our upcoming season. You can also subscribe to Entanglements at Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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